A conversation with Shabnam Shirzadi
Interview by Hester van Hasselt, Academy of Theatre and DanceResearch at the Academy of Theatre and Dance – we know it’s happening, but what does it actually involve? In this interview (part 31 in a series) ATD take a peek behind the scenes, in conversation with Iranian artist, researcher and educator Shabnam Shirzadi, who teaches Performance Analysis at the School for New Dance Development. In 2025–2026, she was awarded the ATD Teacher-Researcher Exploration: the counter-perspectives fellowship.
A State of Bewilderment | Poetry as a way of knowing
I noticed in my classes that analytical approaches move very quickly towards interpretation and clarity, and that students are rewarded for arriving there fast. They wanted to write a good analysis that followed the rules and demonstrated their insight. I could feel how limiting this was, how certain aspects of the work and the experience of it were being excluded. They were getting ‘lost in analysis’, so to speak. There was something overly deliberated about it all.
I grew up in Iran, where poetry suffuses everyday life – I grew up in poetry there, it’s all around you. And it isn’t restricted to artistic or intellectual circles; it goes right across the population, woven into ordinary speech: we use lines of poetry in everyday conversation, and many of them live in our memory.





























